August 15th, 2008 | Category: General
THE TRUTH BEHIND THE INCREDIBLE SHRINKING ICE CREAM PACKAGE
Posted by: Turkey Hill Team
Being the president of an ice cream company has its perks, but sometimes, I have to make tough decisions. One of those decisions was whether or not to decrease the size of Turkey Hill’s ice cream packaging.
I remember when buying a half a gallon of ice cream meant you actually brought home a half a gallon of ice cream. But times change. Today, the half gallon is extinct, and the new standard throughout the ice cream industry is 1.5 quarts. That includes Turkey Hill. Our containers used to be 1.75 quarts (56 ounces). At the beginning of the year, we began the shift to 1.5 quarts (48 ounces) for our Light Ice cream and Frozen Yogurt. In August we’re going to start changing over the Premium Ice Cream line.
The difference is about a cup of ice cream - about two servings - but it feels like more, doesn’t it? That’s why I struggled with the decision to downsize our containers. In fact, I resisted it for a long time. Longer than both our national brand competitors.
Contrary to what some may think, this is not a case of ice cream companies trying to deceive customers or yield huge profits. In the end, we had to do it. In our industry, and in many others, manufacturing costs continue to escalate. The costs of ingredients such as milk, cream, cocoa and sweeteners are also rising. So is the cost of packaging, fuel and labor.
Considering the circumstances, Turkey Hill was faced with three choices. First, we could use cheaper, lower quality ingredients to make a frozen Dairy Dessert (that’s not ice cream), as others have done. Anyone who’s ever tasted Turkey Hill ice cream knows that wasn’t even an option. Second, we could keep the containers the same size and raise the cost. That also wasn’t an option because raising the price would prevent Turkey Hill products from being able to compete for many grocery store sales promotions and everyday low cost programs. We also conducted focus groups and surveys, and our customers told us that raising the cost wasn’t something they’d like to see.
Instead, the overwhelming majority in our focus groups told us that keeping the price the same and decreasing the size of the package was the best answer, even if no one was really happy about it (including myself). It really is the most sensible solution, and one that will allow us to continue making ice cream in Lancaster County - instead of making it somewhere for less cost - and continue to use the premium ingredients that make our ice cream taste so good.
While we have reduced the size of the package we have maintained the quality recipes and selections of finest ingredients. We have also announced a small reduction in price effective October 6th to help stretch your dollar at the grocery store.
We hope you would agree with us that what matters is not the size of the package, but the passion of the people who make the product and the quality of what’s inside.
Quintin Frey
President, Turkey Hill Dairy
P.S. - More than anything, I want to know what you — our customers — think about this issue. Please feel free to offer your opinion by leaving a comment below.





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101 Comments
It isn’t right and Turkey Hill knows it. The answer is to simply not buy their products. Our family stopped when they went to ridiculous 1.5 size carton. There are plenty of good alternatives around.
November 18th, 2008 at 8:05 amRobert, try Blue Bunny ice cream. It’s the same size as the new, ‘improved’ reduced for your own good Turkey Hill, but it’s better ice cream by far.
David S., of COURSE you are correct. The crooks at Turkey Hill THOUGHT they could fool all of the people all of the time. Happily for them, they still have none too bright customers who will pay the half gallon price for a quart and a half, but hey, more power to the crooks.
Hey Quentin, did you see this video on CNN? Even the media now knows you are crooks. Rock on, Quentin. Caveat emptor, right?
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2008/11/17/lawrence.small.size.cnn
November 17th, 2008 at 8:24 amI completely agree with the comments here critical of the shrinking carton size. No question that Turkey Hill makes a quality product but at some point we say “Enough is enough.” When this happened, our family made a pact to boycott the brands who shrunk the carton size one too many times. If Turkey Hill decides to show some leadership and integrity and buck the trend, we’ll consider supporting them once again.
November 11th, 2008 at 4:09 pmI have had it with the constant downsizing of products. Turkey Hill is ripping off its customers and using a lame excuse for doing it. Why not keep the same size container and use it as a selling point? As it stands, I will not go along with this scam and will not buy Turkey Hill ice cream in the downsized containers. You have lost me as a customer and after reading the comments, I can see I am not alone.
November 10th, 2008 at 4:36 pmOk here’s the truth:
At my local Turkey Hill with the 1.75 sized cartons the special was 2/$6.00
Now that the 1.5 is out, it is down to 2/$5.00
So why the shrink? It certainly wasn’t to keep prices the same. What I don’t understand is why ALL the ice cream companies colluded to do this all at once. It is insane!
Next year someone will go back to 1.75 and claim “BIGGER BETTER!!!”
Plus the main reason for the shrink is ‘gas prices’ and they are back down as of this week to HALF what they were when the shrink occurred.
I no longer buy Turkey Hill ice cream or any of the shrinked versions. There is a GOOD ice cream in my area - Leiby’s and they sell full 1/2 gallons! I buy them now. BYE BYE TURKEY HILL!!
November 3rd, 2008 at 9:33 pmAlong with many of your customers, or should I say ex-customers, I have not purchased Turkey Hill since you made the mistake of downsizing. You could have kept the 1.75l package and sold on better value and had an advantage over your customers. But no greed prevailed.
November 1st, 2008 at 2:45 pmPathmark’s premium brand is AT LEAST as good as TH’s, and their package still is a full half gallon vs. TH’s 48 oz. If on sale, Pathmark’s brand costs $1.99; if on sale, TH’s costs $2.49. Both compute to .03125 cents per oz. However, Pathmark hasn’t tried to fool the public like TH with its silent change to smaller packaging. Even the recent coupons that TH recently sent me still refer to 56 oz. packages being available. That’s either a broad lie or a strong attempt to deceive the public.
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:18 pm“With all the lost sales and lower profits maybe they will know that they made a big mistake.”
I hope so. I still see TH on ’sale’ at the supermarket (i.e., at the exact same price the half gallon used to be on sale for but the poor schlubs actually think TH in the disappearing 48 oz. size is on sale) and some people buying it. I do my best to let them know what TH pulled on them. Some care, some don’t.
Hey Quintin, is this the reaction you hoped for? I notice you haven’t come back here since Aug. 15th. A blog, in case you didn’t know it, is for back and forth conversation.
So, what say you? How do you defend your heist?
Oh, by the way, folks, I saw a 5.3 oz. yogurt container. Guess that 6 oz. down from 8 oz. was too much for the customers to carry home. Don’t think the 32 oz. Turkey Hill ‘half gallon’ isn’t on the horizon.
October 4th, 2008 at 3:47 pmsorry-we won’t be purchasing your ice cream anymore. When purchasing for a family your changes mean fewer servings per container so more purchased at increased cost and increased packaging in the trash.
September 27th, 2008 at 10:18 amFriendly’s and some other brands seem to be bucking this trend and will have our family’s business
Someone wrote that this is a positive, and that the smaller package is better for you. That is a crock. I will tell you what is better for you, just eat salad and skip the ice cream. I don’t need a money hungry CEO to tell me and my kids that smaller is better. Now I have to buy 2 so called half gallons to feed my kids a treat. Its time to switch to Blue Bell for a true half gallon. What a sneaky trick.
September 21st, 2008 at 8:04 pmI don’t buy it! His answer, you know. Just check out how much profit the company made last year and you will have your answer. Turkey Hill was one of the most economical ice creams on the market, now it is the same as the big company’s, only they offer coupons and sales. Now is the time to switch to them. With all the lost sales and lower profits maybe they will know that they made a big mistake.
September 21st, 2008 at 7:53 pm>>People, don’t be snowed by this PR racket. It insults our intelligence.
Exactly, Kris. The letter from the president sounded like just that, political jabberwocky.
Sad part is, Kris, all the ice cream manufacturers are jumping on this crooked bandwagon. Heck, Dove even downsized their PINT to 15.1 ounces! Did you notice that Turkey Hill has now taken to putting out pints, which if you do the math will give you a $6.00 half gallon at our local supermarket. Quite a bargain, eh?
I’ve checked, and aside from the sub-par store brand ice cream, the ONLY 56 ounce brands still being put out are by Friendly. I’m sure they too are watching this space, and will borrow the president’s bogus words to put on their website soon and will also be selling less product for the same money shortly.
Oh, and have you checked all the other products out there? Same deceptive packaging and no lowering of price. But hey, what are we going to do about it?
Exactly.
September 5th, 2008 at 11:35 amReleasing this statement after the fact, and only in a blog is NOT being upfront and honest. It is called being caught red handed and scrambling to get out of it. I will give you credit for trying to explain(unlike most companies)….thank God for PR people right? This is a deceptive practice, unless you label your new packaging or do a vigorous advertising campaign ahead of time. It should be right there on the carton. I have been shopping by price per ounce etc. since I was a kid (when I don’t care what brand I get)…my Mom didn’t raise a dummie…but when you have been buying a product for years because you like it, then find out that the package shrunk but the price remained the same, you feel taken advantage of. You have lost my trust. There are still honest companies out there with good tasting products with good ingredients, and I will happily pay more. People, don’t be snowed by this PR racket. It insults our intelligence.
September 4th, 2008 at 8:40 pmMendacity, thy name is Turkey Hill. To your points:
>But times change.–no, mendacity. Corporations get greedier.
>the half gallon is extinct,–see above.
>The difference is about a cup of ice cream–nice try, but mendacity. It’s a pint TWO CUPS stolen from your half gallon to your ‘new’ 48 ounce ripoff.
>In fact, I resisted it for a long time.–that might be true, but I doubt it. At any rate, you didn’t resist long enough, obviously.
>Contrary to what some may think, this is not a case of ice cream companies trying to deceive customers or yield huge profits.–mendacity.
>In the end, we had to do it.–riiiiight, sure you did. No, you didn’t, you COULD have raised prices. More mendacity.
>Second, we could keep the containers the same size and raise the cost.–Mendacity. You did that by lowering the amount by a pint and keeping the cost at what it was for a half gallon. No lies, now, the charge in the supermarket is the EXACT same as it was for a half gallon. Remember, you can’t take it with you.
>our customers told us that raising the cost wasn’t something they’d like to see.–Mendacity. Focus groups, like polls, can be manipulated and the results can read exactly as you want them to. Want an honest focus group? Send me an email for your next one.
>the overwhelming majority in our focus groups told us that keeping the price the same and decreasing the size of the package was the best answer–riiiight, sure that was the answer. Do you have a bridge for us to buy too?
>It really is the most sensible solution blah blah et al the rest of your blather–Mendacity. Sensible for you, a hosing for your customers.
>We have also announced a small reduction in price effective October 6th to help stretch your dollar at the grocery store–wow, be still my heart.
>We hope you would agree with us that what matters is not the size of the package, but the passion of the people who make the product and the quality of what’s inside.–PR BS. In case you missed it, no I don’t agree. And I think you are greedy. And a prevaricator.
But hey, enjoy your greed, and your stolen dollars. Once more, don’t forget, you can’t take it with you.
Unless, of course, Turkey Hill finds a way to do that too.
P.S. I see you went all out for the free software Recaptcha too. Impressive.
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September 2nd, 2008 at 2:47 amThanks for not saying you did it because you cared about my health.
September 1st, 2008 at 9:49 pmwhile i would like the quanity and price to stay the same, i do realize it’s not possible. as a senior i live on a fixed income. however if i’m careful with my sale buying i can get turkey hill. it’s that or no icecream. it’s the greatest! thanks.
August 23rd, 2008 at 6:52 amplease do not change the size….dont follow other companys. I cringe now when i go the the grocery store and see how everything is smaller, but we pay the same, if not more……..Stay true to your company!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 22nd, 2008 at 2:31 pmThis isnt about cost, its about moving upmarket and increasing brand cachet. Premium ice cream manufacturers such as HD and Ben and Jerry’s have known this for years and have been wildly successful with this model. Breyers has also done this. It turns ice cream from a commodity into a premium product that can command a premium price. I agree, however, that it isnt about improving the bottom line right away - though to believe that it isnt about profit is to be fairly naive - its about moving the Turkey Hill brand from “value” to “premium”, which is something that I am sure the Turkey Hill core market has noticed in small incremental steps over the past 10 to 15 years. Its interesting the way that this post frames the idea of increasing profit as a reaction to rising costs (good PR, Quintin).
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:23 pmI am adimently opposed to the change in size of the ice cream “half gallon”, as I am with all the other products that are “shrinking” thier packages. I use lots of recipes that ask for the standard sizes such as 16 oz. can of.___ or 1 lb. of ___, etc It is more and more dificult to follow the recipes and also to make price comparisons of priducts. I appreciate your efforts to not change Turkey Hill ice cream, but am sad that you were force to give in and conform. I want my 1/2 gal of ice cream back!!! Thanks for listening.
August 22nd, 2008 at 12:07 pmI love inexpensive yet high-quality ice cream. So I stock up when Turkey HIll is on sale. I also bought Junior Mint at full price when I found it. Ice cream at home is still far cheaper than that bought at an ice cream shop.
Pricing is a balancing act, and I think you’ve approached it wisely. When the normal “half-gallon” is priced above $5, that makes for a difficult sale. It’s a psychological ceiling like $4 gas. We cringe.
August 22nd, 2008 at 9:48 amI think all companies that are not forthcoming - be it ON the new packaging or making an announcement PRIOR to the shrinking of product sizes - are downright deceptive towards the consumer.
Why can’t you keep the same size and charge more? Everything is going up - so how is reducing the size, but charging the same price making consumers still feel all warm and fuzzy?
It’s just not an honest way of doing business.
August 21st, 2008 at 11:02 amGlad to see your honesty about the changing package, but I would like to point out another major ice cream company that still has a traditional half gallon size. Blue Bell Creamery, based in Texas, is one of the best-selling ice cream brands in the nation, and their containers are still a full half gallon. Their ability to do so becomes more and more remarkable… and appreciated!
August 20th, 2008 at 11:43 pmI personally appreciate your honesty, and integrity to your customers. In all fairness, EVERYTHING is getting more expensive, and it is hard to make ends meet. People have to decide for themselves what’s important. If you want cheap Ice Cream, or bread, or anything else, buy store brand. But if you want quality, stay with the brands you enjoy and cut back elsewhere. Just don’t criticize what others choose to do. (BTW - our stores do put a price per gallon on all the shelf tags to make it easier to compare)
August 19th, 2008 at 9:17 pmI like the larger size box of ice cream and would buy this size over the smaller boxes because the more quantity you buy, the less expensive it is per unit of weight, considering the cost of packaging, shipping and other expenses of marketing.
August 19th, 2008 at 10:40 amUh, let’s face it, most Americans (myself included) should weight a bit less anyway so I say so what-you’ve still got the best ice cream, and lots of options!
August 18th, 2008 at 5:38 pmThank you so much for informing your customers about the change. I would buy Turkey Hill in any size container. The quality is fantastic and so is Lancaster County. Thank you again!
August 18th, 2008 at 2:00 pmP.S. Im still looking for Junior Mint!!!
You do what you have to do to keep a business profitable without compromising the high standards you’ve worked so hard to be known for. Smaller boxes? Oh well, that much faster we finish one box and get to dig into the next one! By the way, you’ve outdone yourselves again with the Peaches and Cream! It’s so creamy that it’s hard to believe it’s one of your lower calorie choices!
August 18th, 2008 at 1:47 pmI can understand your reasoning about making the packages smaller, and at least you had the guts to tell us about it. Most of the other companies such as the coffee companies, have been shrinking the packages for years, first they went to 13 oz and now are down to 11. The can is the same, just less coffee. I will still continue to buy Turkey Hill but probably not as much as my economics are facing a crisis as well.
August 18th, 2008 at 1:15 pmIf only downsizing my body after eating too much ice cream was as easy …
August 18th, 2008 at 9:26 amthanks for keeping Turkey Hill tasting so good.
August 18th, 2008 at 8:49 amI don’t like either a price increase or a smaller package but I think the smaller sizes were and are deceiving. Whose going to notice a smaller bar of soap (4.5oz vs 4.0oz). As a consumer very concerned with prices I really think these changes were intentionally sneaky. I don’t see how a smaller sizes or Turkey Hill are any different than a price increase when that’s exactly what it is. The price per unit is what matters to me. Yes I enjoy Turkey Hill very much but I’m also sticking with whatever brand offer the best unit cost. We’re all struggling. So higher prices just aren’t doable.
August 18th, 2008 at 8:24 amI’ve noticed many changes of products being downsize (coffee, orange juice etc). Perhaps we should downsize the amount we consume at a sitting to prevent all the additional weight Americans are carrying.
August 18th, 2008 at 7:50 amThank you to everyone for your feedback and (mostly) understanding on this issue. Like we said, it wasn’t an easy decision, but after weighing all of the options, it was the best option for everyone.
It’s nice to hear that so many of you agree with the decision we had to make. For those who don’t agree, thank you for voicing your opinion. All of your comments (positive and negative) are valuable and we appreciate every one of them!
August 18th, 2008 at 7:28 amI disagree with your reasoning for decreasing the size. You are in charge and you can do whatever you want. Did you ever think that if you were to keep the larger size,more people would buy your product because you did keep the large size. Just a few weeks ago I bragged about how Turkey Hill kept the same size. Turkey Hill has been my favorite ice cream for years, but, because of this, I think I will go back to the generic store brands, they’re still a true 1/2 gallon size. Please don’t give us excuses, you run the company and you can keep the larger sizes. You know that if you decrease sizes, people will need to buy more ice cream which in turn increases your profits. This size decrease and price increase is an industry scam and I’m greatly disappointed that you have caved to “peer pressure”. A very disappointed Turkey Hill fan.
August 18th, 2008 at 6:59 amI hate the smaller containers, because we have 6 kids and 1 on the way. I work in the supermarket, and am tired of the customers complaining. I don’t make products smaller and it’s not my fault prices are higher. My motto…you get what you pay for. TH goes on sale at least once a month. STOCK UP people. It’s not just ice cream that has downsized…everything has. No matter what the price of ice cream, people still love it and won’t stop buying it. Sorry I’m alittle disgruntled tonight…we had Breyers at a family get together. They live in PA too. :O Amy
August 17th, 2008 at 10:22 pmI can still be happy with less ice cream in the package. The goodness is what matters. I will love anyway.
August 17th, 2008 at 10:20 pmYeah pretty soon there wont be anything available but Pints ..poor reasoning by the companies
August 17th, 2008 at 8:31 pmWow, you’ve really hit a hot button with alot of folks. While it is clear that many love T.H.I.C. and appreciate the choice to continue with your fine quality ingredients, it appears that a consensus will never be reached about the downsizing. Certainly it was a difficult decision to make however, I believe you made the necessary choice.
I DO like the smaller size.
For older couples and for those who live alone, this change could be a good one. More space saved in the freezer as well as less freezer burn on product that goes uneaten for a week or so.
Just keep those sales & coupons coming.
August 17th, 2008 at 8:27 pmI have mixed feelings over this issue. I love Turkey Hill the best - the flavors and quality are really great. But, I am a mother of four children, all of whom love ice cream as much as their parents. A smaller size container will not last long in my house, even with a smaller serving size per person. Also, we have a budget for food. If the packages get smaller, but cost the same, I am going to have to curb the amount of ice cream I buy and stick with other economical sweet treats, like homemade cookies, or skip it altogether. If gas prices can come down, why can’t other things do the same?
August 17th, 2008 at 7:58 pmAlso, I want to add that I have seen actual 1/2 gallon sizes of ice cream. One was a a store in western Massachusetts, made by a company in New York. The other is a home delivery service for frozen foods. So, the 1/2 gallon is not completely extinct as mentioned, merely a very endangered species. I hope that Turkey Hill might rethink this decision and work towards preservation of a dearly loved treat!
We don’t buy cheap ice cream–so thanks for keeping the top quality ingredients.
August 17th, 2008 at 7:02 pmI don’t like smaller packaging when companies just downsize without any explanation. It makes the consumer feel cheated. It is like the companies think we the consumers are too stupid to notice the smaller package for the same or higher price. I do appreciate the explanation it goes along way to understanding the reasoning for the smaller packages. But, pleas do not change the quality of your product. Thanks for the honesty :).
August 17th, 2008 at 5:33 pmI prefer the smaller package as to an increase in price (still the same, either way, if you think about it). However, the smaller package works better for me….I have a tendency to eat too much! It is wonderful ice cream — don’t ever skimp on the terrific ingredients! Peanut Butter & Chocolate all the way!
August 17th, 2008 at 3:13 pmOnly ONE problem: this explanation comes a little to late, AFTER the shrinkage in package size and AFTER a number of consumers & groups have been complaining about the sneaky deception!!!
August 17th, 2008 at 1:26 pmEating smaller portions might be the right answer to downsizing. In our overweight society, a little “arm-twisting” might be what is required. It’s just sooo hard to do with Turkey Hill ice cream!
August 17th, 2008 at 12:43 pmWe understand. We will still ONLY buy Turkey Hill ice cream. My favorite is still Black Cherry and my husband’s is your light ice cream which is delicious.
August 17th, 2008 at 10:51 amI appreciate the honesty of TH and agree with those who ask that you put a statement on the container. Many consumer don’t bother going to the web sites for the products they buy to get information unless they have a problem.
August 17th, 2008 at 10:28 amIt’s refreshing to have someone offer an explanation rather than just change something about their product and hope we don’t notice. We have all realized the impact of changes in the economy, especially in the grocery stores. What we choose to buy is sometimes based on what we can afford. But I for one try to find simple pleasures to help take the edge off of a stressful work week. The superior quality and wonderful variety of flavors you offer truly make it worth the money. Let’s face it, we all have to make sacrifices in life.We could be doing a lot worse.
August 17th, 2008 at 10:04 amI don’t like the idea of smaller packaging but prefer it to an increase in cost. I don’t think it would be deceptive marketing if you put a statement on the containers explaining the reason for your downsizing. I have seen the increase in dairy products in all other areas. I chose to buy locally when possible but find that the dairy farmers in New England are in a real bind and getting out of the industry in droves.
August 17th, 2008 at 9:43 amI would rather buy less and see people in Lancaster County keep their jobs and maintain the same quality of product.
It’s the way things are these days. I see the same thing happening with coffee, yogurt, etc. The cost of everything in the supermarket has increased. That’s because of many factors. However, everyone has bills to pay. Manufacturers can’t be expected to absorb the hit. So if smaller packages must exist, I agree it’s much better than skimping on quality.
August 17th, 2008 at 7:47 amQuality is always better than quanity when it comes to ice cream. I really enjoy TH ice cream and the other lines TH produces because they are quality. I have had some of the other frozen desserts and would not pay the lower price per ouce for them because they can not compair to TH for the QUALITY. Perhaps we as a nation need to learn to appreciate the lucious flavor and savor it rather than going for the bigger is better package!
August 17th, 2008 at 1:36 amThank you for being honest about the downsizing of the carton…I will continue to buy Turkey Hill Ice Cream because of the quality ingredients and I am very grateful for the reduction in price that we will see in our grocery store…also, I am always looking for coupons in the Sunday paper, that would also help us loyal Turkey Hill customers a lot in this economy crunch we are going thru…
August 16th, 2008 at 10:03 pmToday, you gotta go with the flow. Too bad.
August 16th, 2008 at 9:36 pmI would like to way in on the packaging issue, or should I say “lack there of.” When I grew up-back in the day- sixteen ounces was a pound of feathers, butter, corn, and yes even ice cream. A gallon was just that a gallon. Now, as Andy Roodney of Sixty Minutes might say, “well nothing appears what it use to be.” Even before the price of raw materials went up, manufactures were already adding such disclaimers as “contents by weight not by volume, or product may have settled.” I don’t doubt that every manufacturer is looking for unique ways to shave cost in order to increase their bottom line. However, when you do it at the expense of your coustomers’ pocket book, or brand loyalty your seriously treading on hollow ground.
August 16th, 2008 at 8:51 pmMy husband & I traveled to Australia 4 years ago and were amazed at what we found on their grocery store shelves. Everything was smaller - from the size of cereal boxes & instant potatoes to the height of papertowels. We took a roll of pictures just to prove to our friends back in the US how small the product packaging was “Down Under”. Even fast food sizes - “medium” was equalivant to our kids’ size Happy Meal. I’m not saying I’m happy with the smaller packaging of my beloved TH Ice Cream, but maybe we’re just catching up with the rest of the world …..
August 16th, 2008 at 8:30 pma proper explanation and thank you for it. we buy th when on sale or when coupons are available and will continue to do so especialy during the winter season. during summer we usually go to a local ice cream emporium who happens to serve a quality product [ not th ]at very reasonable cost.life changes and we all must adapt,and i wish th the best of luck and a long and sucessfull future!! god bless
August 16th, 2008 at 8:18 pmWhile I appreciate the honesty, it doesn’t go far enough. How about notifying the public when the package shrinks? Print an apology on the outside but let us know we are getting less for our money.
August 16th, 2008 at 5:10 pmThanks for being honest about this size reduction at least. It’s true that most everything you buy has decreased in size and increased in price. The consumers, for the most part,are not fooled by this, but have to continue to buy food. I know I am now buying store brands instead of name brands on many things to save a few cents at least. I love Turkey Hill ice cream and will continue to buy it when the store offers it as a sale item and stock up then. I also think more coupons should be made available as an incentive to keep buying it.
August 16th, 2008 at 3:47 pmI appreciate the explanation, although when I first noticed the downsizing a few years ago from 64 to 56 ounces I felt it was deceptive. And I still consider it deceptive. However, TH is making an effort to explain, unlike the competitors. I agree the new size fits in the freezer better. And I just tried the Junior Mints flavor and think you should make it a permanent rather than temporary addition to your line.
August 16th, 2008 at 3:16 pmPlease do not change the ingredients of any of the ice creams. I have been eating Turkey Hill since the early 70’s and there is no other ice cream that satisfies or tastes as good. Also, my 4 Jack Russell Terriers love the Peanut Butter Ripple or the Original Vanilla. Keep up the good work.
August 16th, 2008 at 2:27 pmIce cream was always a big treat in our home when I was growing up and continues to be now that I am approaching Senior Citizen status. It floors me that some have written that they prefer smaller packaging & continued quality ingredients but fail to aknowledge that the price remains the same except for a sale. Ice cream lovers of the world, UNITE! Smaller package, lower price! Prices should not be higher as a few months go by, either. Since I can’t afford steak, at least allow me to enjoy my ice cream!!!!
August 16th, 2008 at 2:19 pmI just read your article and iam ok with you making the containers smaller and not highering the price. i don’t think its a big deal about what the size of the container is. i would like it this way because some time the containers can be to big and i can’t fit them in the refriguater and then i have to move stuff around to get the containers in the refriguater. And i have to tell you also that i just bought eddys ice cream [party cake] and i did not like the taste of if at all iT did not taste like the turkey hills that i usally buy, i thought i would try it out to see what the taste would be like it like. and it was by far not like TH ice cream i should have stay would TH ice creams party cake thanks for putting out great ice cream turkey hill that is why iam ok with the containers going small i don’t want you to change to ingreatans of your ice cream THANK YOU TURKEY HILL
August 16th, 2008 at 1:53 pmI totally agree with TH president. Were I go for dinner on Sat. nights their plates got smaller, but the price is the same. Business is very competitive, I know I had a grocery store. TH has a great product and they must do whatever to keep up. I just buy more TH when it is on sale. Oh by the way, the containers fit in my freezer alot better. No matter what, I will not give up TH ice cream, because of the size, everything else is smaller. I’m with TH all the way. Linda
August 16th, 2008 at 12:32 pmWell, the slight reduction in size does not bother me in the least. The price is good and the product is better. If you keep making it, I’ll keep buying it.
August 16th, 2008 at 12:21 pmwell, a lease you are honest ,in telling us what you care doing both cutting down in size and and prize.But I my self would pay the extra buck for your brand, and cut back else wear;
August 16th, 2008 at 12:17 pmI will continue to buy TH no matter what. A wise shopper watches for sales and stocks up when possible. TH will keep for months in your freezer if NEVER opened. I just hate it when I cannot find our favorite flavors.
August 16th, 2008 at 12:03 pmI really appreciate your honesty in explaning the decrease in package size. I think you definitely made the right decision, in lieu of cheaper ingredients and price increase. It’s not just ice cream, but just about every food item I buy has a smaller container. I don’t especially like it, but I’d rather have a smaller size than compromise the quality and price. Thank you Turkey Hill - you are still No. 1 in my book for quality ice cream and the way you run your company.
August 16th, 2008 at 12:02 pmI love Turkey Hill and was happy you had not reduced the size of the package. It was obvious why and we consumers are not that dumb. Bring back the half gallon. I would still by two if on sale even if it was more than 2 1.5 quarts for sale now. I think I actually buy less now because before I would by two 1/2 gallons and now only 2 1.5 quarts. Ice Cream is a small luxury we all can afford.
August 16th, 2008 at 11:58 amI will continue to buy TH, no matter the price. A wise shopper watches for sales and stocks up. TH keeps for months in your freezer if never opened.
August 16th, 2008 at 11:57 amI just hate it when I cannot find our favorites all the time.
I also appreciate your honesty with us. However, that does not make a real big difference at the grocery store checkout. I stopped buying Edys products when the package got smaller, and the product became Frozen Dairy Dessert. (what exactly is that anyway?) I have been buying Hood or Friendly products. At my store they are both 2 for 5.00, and both are Ice Cream. I understand the dilemma, but have my own finances to worry about.
August 16th, 2008 at 11:46 amI want a 1/2 gallon not 1.5qt come off it I am sick of everything getting smaller and smaller. It’s not fair to cut the amount of the package - you can’t serve the same number of people with a smaller package you are forced to buy two cartons and that don’t fit into the budget either.
August 16th, 2008 at 10:52 amDon’t tell me to give smaller servings that is not acceptable my dishes didn’t get smaller and my family knows what size they want served not less - they welcome more but never -less a cup is a cup a gallon is a gallon
I know if you kept the 1/2 gal and raised the price while others reduced the size you will lose business. I remember when the 1 pound coffee was reduced to 13 ounces one company reduced the size of the can and had to go back to the old pound size can with the 13 ounces to compete. We, consumers are not the smartest since we look at the price per package not the cost per unit. An 1/2 gal. would now cost 33% more and would think better get brand x over brand y and save 1/3rd not knowing per unit both were the same.
August 16th, 2008 at 10:31 amGood Morning to all Turkey hill Fans,
August 16th, 2008 at 10:21 amThank YOu President of Turkey Hill Ice Cream for been honest with us about the packages. I know it was hard doing what you had to do. “You did make the right Decisions”. I never had a problems with my coupon and the best thing I like about Turkey Hill is that in a National taste Test…Turkey Hill is still number ONE. Thank YOu for not lowing your ingredient to make the best ice cream. I can see why the decisons was hard. Now we know why… I will still be one of turkey hill fan. Please contunie to be Number One IN ICE Cream History. I know I won’t miss that one cup or 2 serving. I just make sure I have enough ice cream. There is one thing I like about your ice cream ….You make it from your heart and family in involved in the company business. Family mean a great deal to me. Turkey Hill fans and owner of turkey Hill ice cream had a great weekend.
Alot of companies make smaller containers, make products from China & jepardise our health. Thank God TH is still made in AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 16th, 2008 at 10:06 amOf course I am not in favor of the smaller sizes, but still enjoy the TH ice cream. Put more and better coupons out to the public. Again, maybe my diet will be happy, but I’m not. I want it all.
August 16th, 2008 at 9:52 amWell, thank you for your honesty and trying to hold the line as long as possible. It used to be said that the only things that were certain in life were death and taxes. Now we could add getting less for our money everyday as a certainty. It’s not only your company but the whole industry. At least a gallon of gas is still a gallon (if the pumps are accurate)no matter the price. Where will it end?
August 16th, 2008 at 9:49 amWhatever needs to be done, I’m just glad you are not changing the quality of your product. I don’t like when companies change the recipe and call it new and improved or better tasting. Usually I like the old flavor, therefore, don’t buy the new product anymore.
August 16th, 2008 at 9:48 amLowering quality and smaller packaging only creates a deceptive envoirement!!!
August 16th, 2008 at 9:36 amI too have to make the same decisions in my small business. Raising price is the only FAIR decision. Lowering quality or smaller packaging only creates a decptive envoirement!!!
August 16th, 2008 at 9:29 amAfter reading the article that explained the decrease in size of Turkey Hill “half gallon” cartons, I am still not convinced that it had to be done. It seems that, in various businesses, raising prices is, for some reason, unacceptable. Anyone can understand that ingredients cost more now, but why shrink sizes (candy bars, canned goods, ice cream, etc.). Just raise the price. Soon, the “half gallon” will disappear in favor of the quart size. I would rather have you use your influence with your colleagues to resist size changes.
August 16th, 2008 at 9:17 amI used to eat Edy’s ice cream and when they changed the size without decreasing the price, I decided to boycott their ice cream. I haven’t bought another Edy’s since then. That is when I switched to 100% Turkey Hill. Also, that is when T. H. became available in all the stores locally. Now I have to make a decision as to buying T. H. all the time, or look closer to the sales prices.
August 16th, 2008 at 9:04 amI know that you have to remain competitive, but you should look at other ways to save money. I now have to buy 4 containers to get the same amount that I used to buy three containers. You package your lemonade in both 1/2 and full gallon sizes and the gallon is cheaper than two half gallons. Maybe the answer is to find a gallon container which is rectangular and fits freezers better - I know round gallons use up too much room in the freezer. That way you could possibly keep costs down and still be competitive.
August 16th, 2008 at 9:03 amEveryone does not receive the Ice Cream Journal via e-mail. Some sort of announcement to the general public in regard to the smaller container would be great. You could also mention the future price reduction. This way everyone would know.
August 16th, 2008 at 8:51 amAt first I was not happy with the reduction in size. I felt the ice cream companies were giving us less and charging the same. Thanks for your explanation - it all makes sense. Keep up the good work. Thanks too for the news about the forthcoming price reduction.
August 16th, 2008 at 8:45 amI appreciate your honesty instead of just hoping no one will notice the smaller size. We all know the price of everything has sky-rocketed and some consumers would pay more for something they like but not everyone. As was stated previously, most shoppers look for bargains and what they have coupons for so to keep your prices down, I’m all for the smaller container.
August 16th, 2008 at 8:43 amI hate the downsizing of the product. If TH is a quality product, then a rise in price is something that the TH buyer will pay. I know TH held out from downsizing, but I am really disappointed and my loyalty is severely shaken now! I will only buy TH if I can’t find a comparable 56 oz brand. Besides with the revamping of new smaller packaging, there is an additional cost incurred by the company, no doubt also passed on to the consumer, making it feel like the companies are “trying to pull one over” on the consumer.
August 16th, 2008 at 8:43 amAt first I was not happy with the reduction in size. I felt that the ice cream companies were still charging the same and giving us less. No company ever stated that there was a reduction in size and why. I appreciate your explanation. It does make sense. The fact that you are going to reduce the price too is very good news. Thanks for keeping us informed. Thanks for the fine product you make.
August 16th, 2008 at 8:38 amTruthfully, I hate the “downsizing” of items. Prices have risen outrageously and consumers are not as unintelligent as vendors may think we are.
August 16th, 2008 at 7:39 amPersonally, I’m torn between wanting the same, or lower prices, and also wanting the full half gal size containers. With it just me & my husband now, eating the ice cream,, I still buy the Turkey Hill,,,,but if a b/d party is coming up and I know I’ll be feeding a crowd, I’m looking for the bargains. I would be weighing the difference between a lesser amount at the same cost as the competitors, or spending more (How much more?) and getting more ice cream in one container. Decissions decissions
August 16th, 2008 at 7:37 amWell I for one am tired of the Companies all telling us they don’t have a choice when they certainly do have a choice to make less profits. So I for one thank you for I no longer buy any of the ice creams that have lower the weight of the containers and I am starting to lose weight now I will have a smaller package also along with saving money which I can use to fix up my outside packaging with a new look.
August 16th, 2008 at 7:36 amThank you for your concern about profits as it has helped me with my health also. To everyone who still allows companies to get away with short changing us enjoy your ice cream.
Thank you for your straightforward honesty…and sharing on the blog. I will still buy Turkey Hill ice cream, but may stock up when I see it on sale.
August 16th, 2008 at 7:25 amCompanies do have a tough decision about whether to downsize their products or not. They are doing it all the time. Look at candy, crackers, cookies, etc. I don’t know if you can put gasoline in this classification. Even if you are paying the same price for less for Turkey Hill ice cream, if you enjoy the product then the price is worth it. If there are coupons out there, use them and save money.
August 16th, 2008 at 7:23 amQuintin, thank you for your honesty.
August 16th, 2008 at 7:11 amI’m in favor of keeping the size true to the original. You’re ice cream tastes like ice cream. It’s rich and creamy and I think it’s worth a little higher price for the 1/2 gal. size. As a consumer I’m getting tired of the sizes decreasing on everything. It would be nice to be told this is going to happen like you did, but of us when it comes to food products want the same sizes we alway had.
not happy with the downsizing but realize that it is a result of our troublesome economy and applaud your decision to explain the same-too often manufacturers think that its customers are idiots and make changes without explanation causing resentment which will affect customer loyalty-keep the Turkey hill quality and the honesty-good point about the coupons
August 16th, 2008 at 7:06 amA cup of ice cream is two servings? O.K. do the math. That means 1/2 cup is a single serving. How many of you out there eat only 1/2 cup at a time?
August 16th, 2008 at 6:26 amAs far as the package size…we live in a constantly changing world whether we like it or not. At least you offer an explanation that is understandable. Do you purchase the containers from another company? If so, maybe the issue needs to be addressed with the company that maufactures the containers.
As a mature person (senior citizen) our family has many ice cream gatherings. Our children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren gather to enjoy the pleasures of life, ice cream. We would buy 6 half gallons of the most favorite flavors but now we must buy 12 containers. So we are spending more money then in the past to get enough for the family. It’s hard to spend more for less, so let the consumer decide what is best for them. Turkey Hill is great the product stands alone. Bring back the 1/2 gallon even if it is going to cost more. We the consumer will be there for Turkey Hill.
August 16th, 2008 at 6:24 amGood things really do come in small packages. Thanks for always giving us great tasting ice cream Turkey Hill.
August 16th, 2008 at 4:15 amBaloney! This is something I call the “13 oz. pound of coffee syndrome”, since the mid 70’s spike in coffee prices is when I first noticed it: When something gets too expensive, the industry involved decides to decrease the size of the packaging in the hopes that the consumer won’t notice the price increase. Even though it’s only hit ice cream recently, it’s been going on for a long time. I wish companies would let comsumers decide what they’d like to spend, rather than just copying other companies.
When I buy ice cream, I want to buy a half gallon, not 1.5 quarts, no doubt soon to be a quart. I’m not looking forward to the day when your ice cream is the size of Hoodsie Cups…
August 16th, 2008 at 1:18 amIt is disconcerting now when I pay the same price for a “regular” container of one flavor as well as for a “smaller” container of another flavor. When all the containers are the same size, I doubt that I will get so agitated. (P.S. and it’s not just ice cream…the 5 oz. Hershey bar has shrunk to 4.25 oz. in the last month.)
August 16th, 2008 at 1:10 amI don’t buy it—we’ve been buying gasoline by the gallon for decades, prices go up and they go down, but we still buy it, still complain about it, but we know it’s a gallon. We all know prices go up, it just seems sneeky to lower the contents. Keep it at half gallon or whatever the standard and raise the price, you really are raising the price by lowering the content.
August 15th, 2008 at 5:21 pmthanks for the explanation. looks like you’ve been reading the blogs recently where the shrinking size was mentioned several times.
my initial reaction is: will you further reduce the size to 1.25 qts next year due to continued inflation, followed by a reduction to 1 qt a couple years later, and so on? and some point container reduction will have to stop, and prices will have to rise.
also–your coupons specifically mention sizes. some coupons have expiration dates over 2 years away. can we use a coupon with former sizes (full 1/2 gal, 1.75 qts) on the products with the new smaller 1.5 qt size? maybe you should stop putting exact sizes on coupons with far away expiration dates–use something more generic such as ‘over 1 qt’.
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